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A Voice: A Basic Human Right

“Young World, your work has the power to provoke movement from silence to empowerment, based in libratory pedagogy, and youth development. It democratizes a civic population of youth by giving them a platform to speak. Your elders in rhyme challenge you to find your own voice, to work hard to apply it, and to do so responsibly. If you’re not afraid of your own potential, we promise you that we won’t be. Hey, Young World, the word is yours…” (Marc Bamuthi Joseph, “(Yet Another) Letter to a Young Poet”)

Melbourne has no shortage of words – a UNESCO City of Literature since 2008, Melbourne is a dictionary, a thesaurus, a veritable fountain pen of words. A writing and reading hub, Melbourne’s poetry scene is particularly strong – while parts are firmly grounded in traditional forms, others are reflexive, vibrant, and fast. The recent explosion of dialogue between hip-hop and spoken word communities stands as proof of this.

The Wheeler Centre resides in the glorious prime real estate at the corner of Little Lonsdale and Swanston, and the city catches festival fever over some literary event or other right throughout the calendar, but words in our city tend generally to cater for the privileged – those who can afford books, workshops, tickets. Those with the cash can buy themselves a voice.

Words and their application are the crux of a slew of social problems and barriers. Policies, laws, rule books – they’re written with words. They dictate what you can and cannot do. They record and perpetuate people’s social standing and potential for upward mobility. They lay out the guidelines for how you’re treated. If you can’t access the words, you can’t access the rules, let alone change them. But, all things being true in their consequences, even if you can’t access the words, you’ll certainly know about what the words dictate for you. Things at a policy-level trickle down until everyday things like ordering a cup of coffee can be met by judgement.

With access to words comes a voice. A voice that is heard. With that voice comes agency, and the possibility for social change.

The recent launch of Melbourne not-for-profit organization the Centre for Poetics and Justice is a move to pull words down from their pedestals, making them accessible and useful for the people who need them the most. The driving forces behind the organization, Joel McKerrow (responsible for most of the ground work), Luka Haralampou and Bronwyn Lovell, are all admirable poets in their own right, known in Melbourne for their ability to move their listeners. The CPJ knocks down the walls between those who have the cash and connections to access words and all they have to offer, and those who don’t.

By running tailored workshops for minority and underprivileged communities, the CPJ hopes to arm its workshop participants with a voice, and a stage.

Having been disappointed by the “gaps in the community development industry”, founding member Luka Haralampou hopes that CPJ “bring[s] voices forward and support[s] the stories of all of the participants”. Moving away from the top-down teaching model that often proves largely unengaging, Luka says that CPJ aims for a two-way learning experience, with workshop facilitators’ attitude, “’teach us and we will help you make something beautiful from what is shared’”.

By running “cultural learning workshops” for facilitators before they enter each workshop, CPJ aims to run workshops which educate both facilitators and participants.  Participants work together with facilitators, “understanding and articulating their own lives and their social existence as well as developing their literary and artistic skills.”

The “gaps” that Luka has observed in previous efforts, he attributes to “poor administration and lack of cultural awareness many organisations were working with … and the damage poor processes can cause when development is attempted without quality consultations”. This, given that many organisations want to cater to everyone by ticking the ‘right’ boxes on grant applications, results in events that are often unorganised and unsure of their own genre or purpose.

Where other organisations (though certainly not all – Express Media, and SLV’s New Australia Media both genuinely cater for often ignored sectors) can be motivated by a need to doff their cap to being “inclusive”, the Centre for Poetics and Justice is undoubtedly moved by a genuine desire to empower, and acknowledgement of existing blind spots.

Melbourne’s general attitude toward new literary efforts is wondrously supportive – the opening event for the Wheeler Centre packed out the Melbourne Town Hall. Smaller regular poetry readings, such as Dogs Tails in St Kilda, or Passionate Tongues in Brunswick, seem to attract something of a sporadic crowd, but a supportive one – one which is often willing to give new voices space to be heard. Hopefully the respect that the founding members of CPJ have cultivated through their own careers (being performance poets, many-time slam finalists, representatives for Australia overseas, educators and interns) and the amount of support Melbourne has to give means that the poets who find their voices through CPJ workshops will be given the air time they deserve.

“Words are empowering,” says Luka, “because they articulate concepts. And concepts are powerful because they help us see from each other’s eyes. For underprivileged people to have the opportunity to articulate their thoughts in front of their peers and the wider community is one of the most empowering acts that can be performed. Especially when these thoughts are often ignored or considered unimportant by the majority. Without words and concepts we cannot begin to become each other’s keepers. We cannot share the gamut of experience that is this world and march forward towards mutual understanding and ultimately, peace.”

We are an active writing and publishing city, we are a vibrant sharing and learning city. And now, we are a stronger, more diverse, listening city which aims to correct its own imbalances through efforts like the Centre for Poetics and Justice.

Thanks heaps to Luka for taking the time to talk to me, and best of luck to the CPJ boys and girls with their project – it’s exciting stuff!

Reviewing: The Problem of the Accidental Steal

I’ve recently finished reading “The Best Australian Stories 2010”. I’m reviewing it for publication, so I have pages and pages full of notes. I feel awkward scribbling in the margins of reviewing books, though it does sound like a more effective strategy. There’s something about defacing books I own that I just can’t come to terms with.

I plan on sitting down tomorrow, when everything’s had a few days to percolate, and making sense of those notes. In the mean time though, many other people who bought the book recently are finishing it too. I exchanged impressions with Alec Patric yesterday, which I found helpful in expressing some of my ideas about the stories. I talked to another friend last night about what I’d expected from certain authors in the collection and what I hope for them in future. Talking to people helps me get my ideas straight before I start writing.

However, I feel a little hesitant to read printed reviews. I have ideas about what I liked and didn’t, and suspicions as to why, but overall I’m still a baby reviewer and at times I feel like I don’t have the literary knowledge to say things with conviction in case someone tells me I’m wrong.

This morning in my Google Reader feed appeared Claire Zorn’s review of the collection on the Overland website.

The uncertainty of my own authority mentioned above means that I’m torn as to whether or not I should read this review. Overland – that’s got some heft. Good writing, authoritative voices, established opinions.

I have two options. I can ignore the review until I’ve written my own, insuring that my ideas are all mine. Or I can read the review and risk an “accidental steal”.

You know the ones. You’re reading a lot of Jane Austen, and somehow her language starts showing up in your own writing. You’re listening to a lot of hip-hop and you accidentally end a sentence with “yo”. It’s not done on purpose, but things influence you. The external worms its way in. Especially really good things – it’s natural.

I see connecting themes in the collection, and I think I’ve nutted out stylistic approaches, strengths of the stories. I have a half-baked review in my head. Claire’s review is sitting in my Google Reader feed, but I can’t decide whether I should read it yet or not, lest my review echoes hers too much.

I wonder if you’ll be able to tell from my own review whether I decided to read it or not?

David Mitchell, Will You Marry Me?

On Christmas Day I finished reading Black Swan Green by David Mitchell.

Easily one of my favourite books of 2010… One of my favourite books of ever.

Hence, when I found this interview on Paris Review this morning, I was glad and interested.

He seems quite a lovable chap, no? I think I’ll marry him. Despite the wife.

The Spinning Room’s Last Night at ET’s

Last night saw The Spinning Room’s last appearance at ET’s in Prahran. I’ve only been going to The Spinning Room in recent months, but I’ve found such a hugely supportive community there and had such a good time that this “last night” announcement was met with sadness. ET’s is shutting down, and The Spinning Room is going with it. Having been run in Melbourne for the last 10 years, this was an important night.

As usual, The Spinning Room’s first half was an open mic. Usually these attract 10 readers or so… Last night’s open mic had a record 22 readers. It wasn’t just readers who showed up, either. The room was packed to capacity, with people peering around door frames and crouched under bars to get in on it. The open mic was packed with awesome talent – John Mckelvie’s quiet, understated intensity blew me away, as well as Randall Stephens and Alex Scott’s high-energy bounce-fest. Geoff Lemon, Steve Smart, Jessica Alice, and close friends of mine, Jo Day and Benjamin Solah… And I managed to get on the open mic list before they ran out of room. SUCH good company to be in!

The second half of the evening was dedicated to “The Best of ’10”; sets by Amy Bodossian and Santo Cazzati. I’d never seen Amy before, but had heard glorious (yet vague…) things from friends.

Amy Bodossian has a six-year old inside of her busting to get out. She twirls and spins and plays with her hair, she laughs and shakes with so much energy that the only place left for it to come out is through her hands. And her smile. She’s not all six year old though. While some of her poetry touches on themes of childhood, she also talks about “misadventures with men” and the nature of being an artist.

Santo… Oh wow. I’d seen Santo host the final evening of the 2010 Overload Poetry Festival, and had seen him read a short piece at a previous Spinning Room. But to appreciate what Santo does, you need to see a full set.

Santo Cazzati’s performance is a cross between a race-caller and an orchestra conductor spastic with passion. His whole body keeps time. He doesn’t pause for his entire set. I can’t tell you how long the set was – time just didn’t exist while I was listening to him. A discussion of themes almost wouldn’t work with Santo… There were times where I wasn’t quite sure what was happening. But I felt it. When my audience neighbour turned to me and beamed “GENIUS!”, I had nothing more to say. That, quite simply, is what Santo Cazzati is.

The future of The Spinning Room seems uncertain – while founder Jon Garrett promises that “this is not the end”, a more sombre email from resigning co-host Anthony O’Sullivan sounded a bit doubtful.

I truly do hope that The Spinning Room finds a venue for 2011 and the future, and it’s an amazing event which never fails to entertain, enlighten, and inspire me. A massive hats-off to those behind the scenes who make it all happen; amazing stuff, which I hope to see more of soon.

The evening was also filmed for Red Lobster, the channel 31 poetry show. Keep an eye out for that episode… While you know, deep down, that you should have been at ET’s last night, you probably wouldn’t have fit in the room anyway. So you can watch the best bits on Red Lobster.

Underwater Wonderland

“Just slide under,” he told me, “block your nose, then open your eyes. Yeah all at once. Then come back up after you see the flash.”

I slid under. Water scrambled up my nose like an army marching into battle; violent and painful. I tried again, this time blocking my nose before submerging, but my body had memory of this thing and as soon as I took my hand away the water was back in there. Eventually I managed to sink myself in our bath, which is bigger than me (NB: buoyancy is a very real force, one that’s hard to get past in large spaces), by sticking a toe into the tap and pushing myself down. The whole thing took logic and precision:
Block nose.
Toe in tap. Push down.
Unblock nose. Push air out of nose simultaneously.
Arms by side but not too close.

Un-scrunch face from pained look.
Wait for water to settle. Open eyes.
Wait for flash. Come back up.

That was just my side of the bargain. There was a tall man with a camera hovering above me, monitoring my face and the water and a dozen other variables that photographers are aware of that I never even knew existed. His head works in a way that I can’t even comprehend.

The final result was this wonderful series. I’m about 2/3 of the way down. “Sam”. That’s me. I’m a siren!

The man in the first photo is my boyfriend, the photographer. He’s the other half of the creative womb that is my household. Our bathroom became a studio, as did other people’s. He put a hell of a lot of time and energy into this series, and I think he’s come up with something moving and provocative.

When I get rich… Scratch that, when YOU get rich…

…because that’s more likely, probably a bit sooner too; you can buy me this house.

I dream of locking myself up in something like this!

Talking Deliberate Practice with Tohm Curtis

My latest mantra is, ‘WRITERS ARE MADE, NOT BORN.’ It takes a whole lot of work, a whole lot of deliberate practice before you get good. Inspiration and genius do not simply descent in a constant stream on those who I admire. They work for it.

‘Deliberate practice’ is the idea that nobody is born supremely gifted, and that people who are ‘experts’ in their field are only so because they’ve spent a dedicated amount of time sweating over what they do.

I really admire people who realize this, and try to dedicate myself to a exercise program for my writing similar to that for my body. Time, sweat, tears, it all needs to go in there. One of my favourite deliberate practice projects was Christopher Currie’s Furious Horses, where he started a blog where he wrote a short story every day for a year. Let me say that again: a short story. every day. for a year.

That’s some awesome dedication. In a similar show of awesome dedication and bravery in putting himself out there, comic artist Tohm Curtis has started the blog “Twelve Moments“, which posts comics Tohm has created in collaboration with writers. These comics are restricted to twelve cells. The project itself is a deliberate practice mission to get “200 bad pages” out of Tohm’s system, having heard that “Every comic artist has 200 bad pages in them before they produce 1 good one…”

So I talked to Tohm about the project:

 

 

Can you explain the project?
The project is called Twelve Moments, it’s a webcomic that is collaboratively created. The premise is that other peeps write the comics and then I produce them (draw, ink, colour, letter and publish) and the sole restriction is that they have 12 pictures (or panels) to tell the story in. It came about because I was watching an interview by Bobby Chiu with Tim Sale. Bobby Chiu’s interview series with artists is great by the way because illustration is a lonely profression (much as I imagine writing is) and these interviews sort of bring a community together, particularly for peeps like me who live in Australia with no access to comic cons, particularly ones attended by people like Tim Sale and Bobby Chiu. Anyway, every artist Chiu interviews has the same advice ‘Do the work.’ Tim Sale quoted somebody in his interview ‘Every artist has 200 bad pages in them before they produce one good one. That number either defeats you or you say: I better get to work.’ Literally as I watched that interview I concieved of doing Twelve Moments and emailed my friend from the same computer to get my first contribution. The aim is to get to 200 pages at least. I still have a long way to go, it’s early days.

Would you call this a deliberate practice project?
I must confess I’d never heard of this term ‘deliberate practice’ until you introduced it to me and it took me a while to track down exactly what it meant on wikipedia. But yes, that’s exactly what I’m engaged in as it turns out and yes, I’m very much into this developmental model.
For me its sort of one and the same as my creative process. I guess the first example of deliberate practice I can remember was reading some articles on playing bass guitar online when one guy suggested exercises such as playing an Oboe part with your bass and trying to reproduce the sound, or trying to reproduce the sound an animal makes. In anything I do versatility is an appealing quality to me, so naturally this developmental approach appeals to me.
I actually wound up in the comic medium though through a trial and error phase. I really wanted to write some screenplays and TV scripts for like low budget Community Television stuff or webisodes. The thing was that while I could write the scripts, I simply lacked the networks and contacts to get them made. Everything I wrote actually got scaled back in terms of its production demands, less locations, less props, sets, less movement, less exterior shots… I still couldn’t get anything made. Then after having an emotional breakdown sparked by reading Noam Chomsky’s ‘Deterring Democracy’ on the streets of Rotterdam I decided I wanted to make a parody of old school sci-fi horror alien invasion flicks, and I concieved of ‘Fear Of A White Planet’.  The thing was that that moved in the opposite direction. I decided though that since I could draw (sort of) I should do it as a comic, and the amazing thing about that medium is that it takes just as much effort to create the illusion of two people sitting in a cafe as it does a far fetched fantasy city of the future with flying cars. This isn’t the case working in film. I guess it’s also the case with writing, but I wanted to include a lot of violence and action, and it’s much easier to draw action than write it.
So I wrote the script for that comic in like two weeks, it was one of those in the zone moments, then I tried to do prep work to draw it, and that blew out to like 10 months. The thing that appeals about deliberative practice is that one of the difficult aspects when you are self taught is that you just don’t know what you don’t know. In the end I had some time between contracts with the work I was doing at the time and decided to just sit down and draw it. I’m proud of that work in one way which is that it chronicles how steep the learning curve was for me. The supposed ‘talent’ I had for drawing that encouraged me as a child and the lack of probably discouraged many more, bought me about a ten page advantage I think compared to somebody who had never drawn a comic. But as you flick through that comic my progress and development is obvious. On the other hand I find the drawing so bad on a personal level I can’t bring myself to look at it anymore.
The thing with Twelve Moments is that it helps me develop by throwing stuff at me I would never choose to or concieve to draw myself. Doing a 100 page comic book before hand, not only did I learn a lot about what I could draw and what I couldn’t I unfortunately learned what I didn’t like to draw as well. That makes me lazy when writing my own comics. For example, I hate perspective, I hate more than 3 panels to a page, on a good day I can draw 5 pages in about as many hours, but whenever I had a page with 6 panels on it, it might take me one or two days just to draw that one page. I just find it unpleasant for some reason.  Probably because I measure my progress in pages.
Now I’ve cheated a bit with Twelve Moments because I’ve restricted the number of panels to twelve. Worst case scenario is that somebody asks me to draw a one page story with twelve panels on it, and I can live with that. But I am of the school that says ‘the artwork serves the story’ and although I want to be really good at drawing, the story comes first and I pick the style to suit it. Thus Twelve Moments as deliberative practice is great, for example ‘Arachnophobia‘ I drew on Bill Presing‘s work to determine my visual style and to a lesser extentWade Furlong for the spider-webs. The story ‘2020 Vision‘ I was drawing on Bruce McCall, and the golden era comic book artists like Kirby.
Doing so many one-shot comics forces me to create so many settings and characters and pick and choose styles and colour pallets that I am literally learning from every stroke, every line I throw down on paper. I learn even more from the ones I then have to erase. It is demanding, but I am in a position where I can look back at stuff I produced last month and just be embarrassed by it. That’s how fast I’m developing which is probably as much a comment on what an amatuer I am as the merits of deliberative practice.

Do you usually work collaboratively like this, and if not, has this changed anything in the way you work?
Collaboration is new to me, but not to comics. I also give Tim Sale most of the credit for inspiring Twelve Moments, but my frequent collaborator H-Wang who wrote 2020-vision actually inspired me because he used to do this e-zine project where he invited his friends to contribute something relating to a theme and then he would do all the design work. He’s like a creative ad-man that works in print media so it was much more ‘design’ based than comics per se, but that definitely was an influence.
In the comic world currently you have two spheres competing against each other the Japanese comics that follow a tradition of ‘artist-as-writer’ and Western comics which are in the professional realm at least almost always a writer and artist collaborating. If you watch the progress of Japanese titles taking up shelf space at Boarders, then the western model appears to be losing out. I think collaboration though offers this neat efficiency, a good writer can work on multiple titles at once and with the artist that best suits their narrative. An ‘artist-as-writer’ model like is common in Japan means that a good writer can only work as fast as he/she can draw.
Furthermore with comic book adaptations dominating movie box-offices I was pointing out to my brother that aspiring screenwriters should move into comics. My brother pointed out that that was harder than it sounded because comic book artists particularly at the amateur/independent level are usually preoccupied with their own stories. This is largely true, and if I’m to defend western comics based on their tradition of collaboration I thought I better actually follow suit.
In terms of changing the way I work, it’s made me less lazy. I remember working at Honda they gave us like a book of wisdom from company founder Soichiro Honda where he talked about working as an auto-mechanic prior to WW2. He had this amazing attitude towards his customers because he knew that they would be really proud of their car and heartbroken when it broke down. So he always did the repairs and then cleaned the car and showed the customer what had happened and how he’d fixed it. That story sticks with me and I try to bring a similar attitude when I’m working on somebody else’s story. Even if it’s a story I would not normally be enthusiastic about, I want my contributors to be enthusiastic about comics and I try to make it as good as I possibly can. The story ‘Deus Ex Machina‘ I got out late, this was partly because I lost a week to exams but largely because when I was doing my least favorite part of the process – coloring I was trying something new, that was colouring the line work and then filling. I spent three days doing the first page and when I looked at it I just felt it looked terrible. So I scrapped three days of work and started over with a simpler technique I’d used before. It wasn’t a total waste of time trying something new I learned a lot, but I don’t want to a single contributor to think I did a half-arsed job on their comic.
The last thing I’ll say on collaboration is that comics and writing are lonely professions, you (usually) don’t do your work in some cool bar in the presence of your friends but some home studio/sweatshop slowly losing your mind. Collaborating brings somebody else into your work and that’s a big thing. Just to have somebody who knows about it, knows it exists and involved in decision making before the publishing date goes a long way. Although I hunger to write my own stuff again, collaborating is definitely the most rewarding work I do.
What has the project involved – any major hiccups or set-backs?
The biggest set back was just designing a site to publish it on, that I could update easily and so fourth. There’s stuff to consider like ‘Can I actually use it?’ since I’m not too programming literate, to questions of the medium like ‘how do I keep people from reading ahead? reading backwards etc.’ It’s currently published on a blog so it’s less than ideal but I’ll fix this when I have that magic combination of time + money. Shouldn’t be too long.
The other challenge is just getting contributors. Not to draw gender lines but it was really hard to get female contributors. Even though invitation wise I kept it pretty balanced, because I wanted to introduce peeps to the wonders of the comic medium, the ratio of contributors is still way to one side. It’s strange because my female friends are often my most vocal and enthusiastic supporters. I guess they live more fulfilling lives than the guys I know, who have time to sit around writing comics?
Otherwise, the big set-back is one of motivation. I have called drawing a two step process – figuring out, then colouring in. 90% of the effort is in figuring out how to draw something, I’ve gotten better/more efficient at this over time, but it’s funny some days for no reason at all I will just get stuck. It took me ages to draw Arachnophobia because I had to figure out these perspectives that allowed a tiny spider to talk to a full grown woman. The solutions weren’t necessarily hard, I just didn’t like the process of coming up with them. I did like a panel a day which is ridiculously slow for pencils. But then it was a breeze to ink and colour. Go figure.

What do you hope to get out of the project, and are you seeing some results yet?
I literally want to produce that one good page after 200 ‘bad’ ones. I’m proud of the work I’ve done thus far, but it’s strange for a lot of them I drew them like 3-4 months before colouring and finishing them off and I really hate my quality of line, or use of space or whatever. I stop myself short of redrawing them, but it’s nice to know I’m developing so fast that I’m viewing stuff I only drew a few months ago as not up to my current standard. Switching styles too, I’m starting to develop my own style.
You can’t see it much in Twelve Moments output and you probably won’t for a while, because I’m deliberately imitating other artists in order to develop but when I draw something spontaneoulsy without reference all these different solutions are creeping in, like I’ll draw my knuckles like N8 Van Dyke, and do my facial features and anatomy like Humberto Ramos but my lines all straight and jagged like Lazy-Mills. Its still messy but the minute adjustments are starting to blend the different styles together into something more my own. This is really exciting for me and I hope to start simultaneously producing my own title in my own style.
I also as mentioned before am hoping to ignite something in my collaborators. I want them at base to be excited about creating something, more excited than they would be consuming something. Then I hope some of them get really excited about comics as a medium to write for. Unfortunately I can only offer them 12 panels, which is more than most independent artists do, but I realise is frustratingly small space to work with. Some of the things that work best in comics over any other medium – like time transitions and action sequences I know my collaborators just don’t have enough space to set up in 12 panels. But some of them have emailed me and said thanks for getting them to create something again. That’s the best result I can hope for.
My major challenge now is the same as anybody who creates anything has. Getting feedback. I have a lot of friends who are muso’s and while I do envy them their musical abilities and social nature of what they do, it is much easier for my friends to follow a link than it is for me to head out in the rain on a Saturday night to see them perform. It must be like throwing a party every week and wondering who will turn up. Having said that, how do you get peeps to comment? crit? give feedback? That’s the big mystery. I get more nourishment from feedback, or even a ‘Like’ on facebook than I do from most meals I cook myself (the sad thing is, I’m not even speaking figuratively). I wrote more extensively on this on my own blog, but peeps you got to realise we write/draw/play for you, you are an integral part of the creative process just by bearing witness. So don’t be shy, comment. It means more than you would guess until you’ve been in the same situation. Get down to those local gigs too, check out peeps’ photo blogs, comment on your friends blogs. It’s like the nicest thing you can do easily next to walking your dog. (Hey, a pet is a responsibility).

A huge thanks to Tohm for talking to me about this project, I look forward to seeing his work develop as the project moves along.
Also, sorry about dodgy formatting in this post. I’ve spent all my patience trying to fix it, and I’m out.

Some Solid Advice

I’m a fan of Cate Kennedy. She’s a great writer, a wonderful editor (hey, Christmas is coming up! “The Best Australian…”? Anyone?), and I especially enjoy reading her columns and journal articles.

Having read some of her work before, I know that Cate Kennedy is a major proponent of turning the damn internet off when you’re working. She tells some harsh truths, she honestly gets to the crux of the problem, whether it’s time-wasting, or lying to yourself about what your work really is or wants to be…

Yesterday on The Inc. Blot (the Black Inc blog), Cate wrote her top ten tips for writers. Usually these lists are pretty gimmicky, or they take the piss. Mark Twain’s advice, “Use good grammar” and a very helpful BBC article telling me to “Get an agent!” are two such articles.

Cate’s list, however, is true to her usual form. She cuts through the crap, and gives real advice which talks to the real problems most writers face. Thinking about fame when what you need to do first is find somewhere to sit and write. Mucking around on Youtube. Self-editing before anything even reaches that page. Most importantly, just get the job done. Cate gives advice that helps you do that.

So head on over to The Inc. Blot and give her article a read.

Admiration/Inspiration Thursday with Sage Francis

I was introduced to Sage Francis’ music about four years ago. I didn’t listen to a lot of hip hop then, but I loved poetry and my boyfriend knew that. As soon as I heard his music, it was the start of something that felt really special. You know that feeling when you find an artist who just captures it all perfectly? That was Sage Francis for me then, and still is now. His finger is spot on the pulse.

I admire his work because it breaks from the norm – at least, the norm as I know it in Australia. Sage Francis is not only a white guy producing really good hip hop, but he’s putting poetry to music. And that poetry shines, it really does. His subject matter oscillates between confessional and social commentary.

It’s easy for confessional work to become self-indulgent… Sage’s doesn’t. It speaks to the darker side of me. His comments on society aren’t just a rant – they’re intellectual, they’re insightful observations of where we’re at. They’re important and accessible.

Sage Francis – he’s smart, and not sorry about it. He’s honest. He’s funny (my favourite line: “if you ain’t dead, you ain’t a suicide girl!”). Lyrics aside – it’s plain good music.

He was kind enough to answer some questions for LGWABP.

Sage Francis

Q: -Your beard’s a bit epic. Tells us about that.
A: My beard grows wildly. I must be part viking. I would braid my beard if it didn’t hurt so much.

Q: -Come to think of it, B. Dolan’s beard’s a bit epic too. Is it some crazy Rhode Island thing?
A: We have different breeds of beard. His grows sideways while mine grows downward. We’re both part Irish so maybe the beard gene stems from Ireland but probably not. Because they are different species of beard.

Q: -Before hip hop you were a slam poet – what you do now is a beautiful mashing-together of the two. How did this happen?
A: Common misperception. I was not a slam poet before hiphop. I found out about spoken word poetry (which then introduced me to slam) many years after I had already been rapping. Since I was already writing by the time I stumbled into performance poetry I figured it was a good medium to present my material to an audience. I was right. What I’m most thankful for, in regard to my involvement with the spoken word scene, is that it opened me up to different subject matter which then was infused into my rap songs. The slam thing was inspirational in the beginning but it quickly wore thin and uninteresting to me. Much like the battle scene in hiphop. Competitive based art, when graded and judged by people you are performing in front of, almost always results in bad art. Those are not creative scenes, nor are they supportive scenes. At first they are, but they quickly fall to the way side once people figure out the “tricks.”

Q: -Your latest album ‘Li(f)e’ is very diverse sounding – it’s much less beats-based and uses a lot of really different instrumentation, and you’ve worked with a lot of great musicians on this one. Each song certainly has its own distinct feel. Tell us about that.
A: You said all that I think needs to be said about that. I mean, those are the basics right there. I deviated from a beat-based soundscape and delivered my raps on top of live instrumentation. This has annoyed some of the more hard-lined hiphop fans and opened up some of the non-hiphop fans. I wanted to create an album with a whole new sound and doggone it…we did. I believe that rap is much more flexible than people give it credit for, and I always have these impulses to explore the territories that other rappers or musicians are hesitant to go. As long as my ideas and words have room to breathe I am happy.

Q: -When listening to your music, I often discover a new line after I’ve heard the song fifty times. Do you intentionally make your lyrics that way, or do you just have so much to say that you try to fit it all in?
A: That’s what makes writing so fun. Setting up the traps, pitfalls, escape routes and alternate meanings. The power of poetry, as far as I’m concerned, is being able to stuff as much meaning into as few words as possible. That’s the fun part of what I do.

Q: -For “Little Houdini”, the first track off your latest album, the inspiration came from a news article you found. Do you do this a lot? And where else does your inspiration come from?
A: I don’t often derive my subject matter from news stories. In fact, Little Houdini is the only time I did that. It was a story I found so inspirational that I held onto it for a few years and then decided I wanted to tell the story. The only other song that followed a similar pattern is Makeshift Patriot, but in that instance it was the events that occured after 9/11 that inspired the song. Although my lyrics consisted of actual phrases from news reports, it really wasn’t the same kind of thing. My inspiration for songs usually just comes from whatever subject matter is plaguing my mind. That typically comes from personal experience or information that I come across in one way or another through regular day-to-day stuff.

Q: -Your lyrics often hold a mirror up to society – do you see social commentary as a big part of hip hop’s role?
A: Well…yeah. It used to be like that anyway. That’s a big part of what drew me into hiphop in the first place.

Q: -Your songs seem to be equal parts confessional and social commentary. Is that intentional?
A: Sometimes you have to turn the mirror on yourself. I don’t really like looking at myself in the mirror anymore, but I need to be fair.

Q: -The slam scene in America is quite different to what it is here in Australia – over there you can pack out stadiums with poetry… Here we hold tournaments in warehouses and pubs, but it’s a push to pack it out. It’s a small but very enthusiastic scene. Do you have any advice for those of us trying to get this thing to take off?
A: It belongs in pubs. Not stadiums. Let the small pack of people stay enthusiastic and creative. Don’t bastardize the shit like we tend to do with everything in the states.

Q: -A lot of what you tackle with your work is really heavy, but there’s also this video floating around on Youtube, of you battling the Strange Famous Records intern in your parking lot. Care to comment?
A: Well…that battle took place in the Epitaph parking lot. It was totally random and off-the-cuff. While I was in Los Angeles I dropped by their office to have some face time with the Epitaph folks. While I was making my rounds I came across this intern who would dance on command. He was told to dance for me…and he did. The office burst into laughter and I got mad. I was like, “That ain’t shit. It’s time to battle.” And the whole office was like, “Ooooooohhhh.” So they immediately set up an event to take place in their parking lot so the intern and I could do a dance off. The rest is history.

Q: -Tell us a bit about how you create.
A: When all goes well I fall into a trance-like state and let my mind run wild. That’s just when I’m feeling metaphysical though. It takes a fair amount of peyote to get me there. A lot of the time I just imagine something that I want to bring to fruition…and that’s that. Nothing too complicated there. Once I put my pen to the page I do my best to avoid typicality. A lot of ideas are bad ideas so it’s important to be a good editor. Editing can turn shit into gold if you know what you’re doing. And vice verse if you don’t know what you’re doing. I probably do both.

Q: -You’ve recently announced that you won’t be touring anymore, and you’re taking an
indefinite break – what bought this on?
A: I’ve found this to be very difficult to explain to people which I didn’t expect but I understand why there may be confusion. I’ve been a road dog for over 10 years now. I’ve traveled this world many times over. I’ve seen many clubs. I’ve had the same small talk conversation with thousands of people. I’ve wrecked my throat and body, risked life and limb, ruined my relationships with people back home and have a career to show for it. Yay. It worked. I don’t want to do it anymore. I’m a pseudo-recluse. I can function while in the company of others but it’s not comfortable at all. That’s not me. I don’t know what I’m going to do, or if things will change for me, but for right now I have to be fair and honest with myself as well as with my fans. I won’t be able to do long strings of shows anymore. It’s doing some serious damage to my life. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t worth it.

Q: -And what will you be doing instead?
A: I’ll try to live a life of stability and creativity. If that doesn’t work then I’ll be back on the road telling myself “It’s the journey, not the destination.” Repeatedly. Over and over. Oh, journey…you fuckfaced mistress…gimme a death kiss already.

Thanks to Sage Francis for supporting a blog like mine, and answering my questions. He will be in Melbourne on the 15th of October for the Melbourne International Arts Festival – you can buy tickets here. Check out the rest of MIAF’s program too, there’s some exciting stuff on.

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